The Yellow Wall Paper

Ceci told me you are reading and analysing this wonderful story.

We believe it would be a good idea to use paragraphs from another story “The Mark on the Wall” (Virginia Woolf) to compare and contrast ideas, feelings, thoughts, and so on.

Read this paragraph and compare it to the moment the woman saw the wallpaper.

“… it must have been the winter time, and we had just finished our tea, for I remember that I was smoking a cigarette when I looked up and saw the mark on the wall for the first time. I looked up through the smoke of my cigarette and my eye lodged for a moment upon the burning coals, and that old fancy of the crimson flag flapping from the castle tower came into my mind, and I thought of the cavalcade of red knights riding up the side of the black rock. Rather to my relief the sight of the mark interrupted the fancy, for it is an old fancy, an automatic fancy, made as a child perhaps. The mark was a small round mark, black upon the white wall, about six or seven inches above the mantelpiece.”

Read this paragraph and go back to your story, what does the woman believe the wallpaer is?

“How readily our thoughts swarm upon a new object, lifting it a little way, as ants carry a blade of straw so feverishly, and then leave it…. If that mark was made by a nail, it can’t have been for a picture, it must have been for a miniature—the miniature of a lady with white powdered curls, powder-dusted cheeks, and lips like red carnations.”

Read this paragraph and think about “control”. Is the woman in control of her own life?

“But as for that mark, I’m not sure about it; I don’t believe it was made by a nail after all; it’s too big, too round, for that. I might get up, but if I got up and looked at it, ten to one I shouldn’t be able to say for certain; because once a thing’s done, no one ever knows how it happened. Oh! dear me, the mystery of life; The inaccuracy of thought! The ignorance of humanity! To show how very little control of our possessions we have…”

-Take notes of all the descriptions of the yellow wall paper in the story to discuss in class with Ceci.

-The narrator is not just a prison of this room; she is a prison of her marriage. Do you agree? I know Joaco talked about the relationship husband-wife in class and said that John loved her but he loved her in a wrong way. (Is it ok Joaco?). Think about this for Monday to discuss with your partners and teacher. It is very interesting.

 

Enjoy this story!!

See you soon

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21 Responses to The Yellow Wall Paper

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  2. Pat says:

    Good work Delfi!

  3. Pat says:

    Good work Nico!

  4. 1) In “The mark of the wall”, when the protagonist sees the mark on the wall, it brings memories to her. Since the mark is black, a moment associated with darkness came to her mind. The text says that the mark “interrupted” something. The mark caused something, and the protagonist was aware of it. In “The yellow wallpaper”, the protagonist is also disturbed by something in the wall “I never saw a worse paper in my life”. Here we can see that her life is also being interrupted by something in a wall.
    2) In “The yellow wallpaper” the protagonist has mixed feelings towards the wallpaper as in the fragment presented. At the beginning of the story she says that she “never saw a worse paper in her life”. But in the ending she likes the wallpaper and “stares at it in amazement”.
    3) Both women aren’t in control of their own lives, they are disturbed by different things that mean so much to them that they can’t even make their own decisions because of the tremendous effect it creates on them.

  5. Bautista Olaizola says:

    1) In “The Mark of the Wall” the woman likes the mark in the wall, she says that is “fancy” but it also has a feeling of irritation and in “The Yellow Wallpaper” the woman hate it, she doesn’t like the color, she says that it seems as if some kids painted it. Also, her opinion is that it ruines the room.
    2) She thinks is a place that take off your freedom as a prision and that she is the one with no freedom, she felts trapp in the wallpaper. She thinks the woman inside it’s also trapped in the “prision”
    3) No, because she is afraid of how she can react to the mark, she is like sacred of it and that she convince herself that its just a mark. In the Yellow Wallpaper the woman has a kind of obsesion with the wallpaper, she can’t stop analysing or stop thinking.
    4) Yes, because she can’t do what she want that is to write or get out of the room because for John it’s better for her but it isn’t. Her husband thinks that the right decision because she seems to be better in the outside. Also, John’s sister is taking care of her but the only thing she does is to be sure she doesn’t abandoned the room.

  6. Flor Araya says:

    1) Comparison of moment she saw the wallpaper to ‘The Mark on the Wall’.
    In ‘The Mark on the Wall’, when the narrator spots the mark, a fancy from her childhood comes to her mind but it interrupted by the same mark, which brings her relief. Therefore, it could be said that the spot isn’t connected to negative feelings. Whereas in ‘The Yellow Wallpaper’,when the narrator enters the room and sees the wallpaper, she seems rather disgusted and can only say negative comments about it. However, it could be said that she is in a way fascinted by it since she analizes it so much and can describe it so throughly just from the first impression.
    2) What does the woman believe the wallpaer is?
    She believes it is a prison as she describes that she can see that it has bars and that the woman inside the wallpaper is trying to break free from it, which could be symbolizing herself trying to break free from her husband and the house.
    3) Is the woman in control of her own life?
    In my opinión she isn’t in control of her life. Because she is constantly being told what to do and what not to do. For example, she has to rest and get as much sleep as she can, she can’t write, she can’t move around too much because she has to save her energy. And whenever she is doing something that she shouldn’t be doing, she has to stay alert in case someone sees her.
    4)” The narrator is not just a prison of this room; she is a prison of her marriage.”
    I don’t believe prisoner is the right word to describe her in her marriage because, even though she was treated in an oppressive way, her husband didn’t do it with bad intentions. The problem was that he limited her from doing certain things that could’ve actually helped her get better, and told her to do other things that didn’t help her. This often happened because John, rather than being just her husband, acted as her doctor.

  7. Pancho Mosquera says:

    -Paragraph 1: In ‘ The yellow wallpaper’ the protagonist finds the wallpaper repelling, the colour yellow made her feel dizzy. Instead in ‘ The mark on the wall’ the protagonist finds that mark nice in a way, she thought it may have been drawn by a kid.
    -Paragraph 2: The protagonist thinks that there is a women trapped inside of the wallpaper, so she see’s it as a prision.
    -Paragraph 3: It’s clear that the women has no control over her life. We can notice because she is locked in a room, with only one window, she can not see her own baby, his husbannd (john) is in control of her life.

    -The narrator is not just a prison of this room; she is a prison of her marriage. Do you agree?
    I fully agree, John decides the women is sick, if she’s able to write and all other activities. He doesn’t let her see his son, this is a clear example of control. Finally, what the women itself see in the wallpaper reflects her life, she’s trapped and can not get out.

  8. Tomas Borda says:

    1) Both narrators of the story are analyzing something in the wall. In the Yellow wall paper, the narrator thinks that the mark in the wall is a simbole of her trapped and she wants to let it free. In the other hand The Mark on the wall gave me the impression that the narrator is admiring the roound mark in the wall.

    2) She thinks that their is a women trapped in the yellow wall paper and she wants to get out, the women only goes out at night. At the end of the story che finally recognized that the women in the yeloow wall paper is her. She feels that the wall paper is like jail and she cant get out, like her husband does not let her get out of the room.

    3)The woman of the story “The Yellow Wall Paper” had no control of her life, her husband and sister where the ones that had the control over her. Thats why she comes crazy, because as her husband didnt let her get out of the room she cant cure her illness. She feels trapped and no control of her feelings nor life.

  9. Catu Grosso says:

    1) In the mark on the wall and in the yellow wallpaper, both protagonists are absorbed and caught by the walls of a room. In the first one, there is a mark which calls her attention and this takes her to the past, the dark, the old fancy, castles, etc. In both stories this “thing” interrupts their peace. Both protagonists from the beginning they realized there is something wrong with the walls.

    2) In the Yellow Wall Paper the protagonist thinks the wallpaper is a prison and she is a prisoner. She thinks, any women are locked and trapped there. She really hates it and knows there is something bad about it.

    3) Clearly, the woman in “The Mark on the wall” isn’t in control of her life, because there is something which is scaring and bothering her. Also, the mark is making her go crazy and obsess with it.

  10. Mara Ripoll says:

    -Both women, the one on this passage, and the one from the yellow wallpaper see the wall, and reflect over it; they feel identified with it. They watch it and their mind goes somewhere else, they connect with it, with the situation they are living.

    -A reflection of herself.

    -No, she’s not. She’s sick, and her husband has her locked up on a room, can’t do anything, she can’t write not read. She has no control over what she does.

    -She’s both a prison of her room, and a prison of her marriage. Her husband decides everything for her. She told him she needed to go out because she was going insane in there her husband denied it. She can’t get out of the room and she can’t get rid of her husband. John thinks he knows what’s best for his wife but he’s doing more bad than good.

    Sorry for the delay, I had it on paper, and just found a moment to type it!

  11. Pat says:

    1. What the woman in the yellow Wall paper was a ghost. She had a post part depression that made her go mad, that’s why, she saw a ghost on the yellow paper. On the other hand, the story of Virginia Woolf, “The Mark on the Wall”, the persona could see “of the crimson flag flapping from the castle tower came into my mind, and I thought of the cavalcade of red knights riding up the side of the black rock” on her imagination while she saw the smoke of her cigarrete and the mark of the wall. But at the end what both woman saw reflected on the wall was a fancy, a product of their imagination.
    2. In the story “The Yellow Wall Paper” by the author, Charlotte Perkins Gilman, the women believe she was seeing a ghost projected on the yellow wall paper.
    3. The woman of the story “The Yellow Wall Paper” had no control over her attitudes, feelings, ideas and thoughts. She is wrapped in her imagination or in her “fancy”. That is why she thought there was a ghost on the wall and she began to have no control over her body, started to break the wall paper and crowing all over the floor. That is the “mystery of life: the inaccuracy of thought! The ignorance of humanity! To show how very little control over possessions we have”.

    Juani

  12. Tomás Anania says:

    1.Read this paragraph and compare it to the moment the woman saw the wallpaper.

    Both of them had views when looking at the mark in the wall. In Virginia Woolf version the woman has a rather positive reaction. Where as in “The Yellow Wallpaper” the narrator is rather shocked and disgusted with the view.

    2.Read this paragraph and go back to your story, what does the woman believe the wallpaer is?

    It is the cell or the house of a miniature of a lady with white powdered curls, powdered-dusted cheeks and lips like red-carnations.

    3.Read this paragraph and think about “control”. Is the woman in control of her own life?

    No, she isn’t. She thinks that things such as life, death or even a mark in the wall are out of control, that is, have no rational explanation. This reflects how she feels about her own life, she cannot control it.

  13. Lucila Giambruni says:

    -Comparison of “The Yellow Wallpaper” (part in which woman sees the wallpaper) and the fragment of the story “The Mark on the Wall”:
    Both the yellow wallpaper and the mark on the wall produce a feeling of annoyance and make the narrator disturbed by these two elements. They both allude to the objects as if they had “interrupted” the place or as “irritating”.

    -What does the woman believe the wallpaper is?
    The woman believes the wallpaper is like a trap/prision of another woman, which in fact is her own reflection, that tries to break through, to break free. Although at the begining she found it repulsive and didn’t really get its pattern, she then understands it better.

    -Is the woman in control of her own life?
    I don’t think she is in control of her life since she is kept in a room by her husband who doesn’t let her move, work or even write. Her life is very dependant on John and is sort of trapped in a bedroom. She can’t even convince her husband that she is sick! Who knows better that¡n herself that she is not well?

    -The narrator is not just a prision of this room, she is a prision of her marriage. Do you agree?
    Yes, I do agree. As I have said, the female character is a prison of his husband as he is in charge of what she does, where she is and what her condition is; and also she is kind of trapped or locked in her own bedroom surrounded by the repulsive “yellow wallpaper” unable to do anything by herself, except write which has to be secretly. John was the one who decided whether his wife was sick or not, although she told him repeated times that her condition wasn’t improving and she felt weaker as time passed by. In addition to this, he refused to move her to another bedroom when she told him that she didn’t like it.

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